"My Build Is Secret!" - Guild Wars Forums

Mera Regila · Sep 24, 2006, 07:16 AM // 07:16

I don't know about everyone else here, but I've been getting an overwhelmingly large amount of people, in guilds, gvgs, and other areas of pvp who won't share their builds. I don't understand this kind of mentality, I mean, If I don't know what someone's build is, say they're a W/Mo in gvg using Mending and Healing Hands, and refuse to say their build, I can't offer any friendly input.

Once I had a guild leader who everyoen in the guild said was awesome, meanwhile he doesn't share his GvG W/Me build, it turns out to be a riposte warrior with Physical Resistance and Conjure Phantasm.... Even in RA, the noobiest of pvp fights, people are like this, once i had a very good group going there and I asked a mesmer what KIND of build she was using and she goes "None of ur business!" and ragequits, of course we lose, and she pms me a bunch of cussing and foul language. I'm like wtf, all I did was ask the particular area of the build you were using....

Anybody else finding this behavior?

Mars Djinn06 · Sep 24, 2006, 08:47 AM // 08:47

Hmm, sorta. I sometimes tend to ask what the Elementalist build that a person is using, but they tend of ignore it and change the subject as such, so i just let it slide. But i have never encounted someone getting so angry for asking what build they are using. Swearing and all that is too far!

Stemnin · Sep 24, 2006, 11:12 AM // 11:12

I dont even bother asking, i'll watch what their builds are while playing monk, or when im playing something else and im dead, i watch there too lol.

teenchi · Sep 25, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40

I agree with watching while monking for them or challenge them to 1v1 in the guild hall and then you can use Fraps to record the fight if you really want to know. www.fraps.com

Kusandaa · Sep 25, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

I don't like this attitude either. I take it as a fear of getting countered/beaten/brought down, but they're not helping others. It's pretty selfish... well that's what I think. I'm willing to help people get better at this game, find new ways of doing things, but it doesn't seem to be like that with everyone. Within my guild, I'm not having this problem and we seem to share most builds we use, give tips, etc.

At most, if I wanna get a new build, I'll check on GW Wiki

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Quid Pro Quo · Sep 26, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06

I think people don't want other people to copy their build when really they don't realise that their build is probably already on guild wiki unless it doesn't work in which case its probably also on guild wiki under unfavored builds.

Sinborn · Sep 26, 2006, 04:09 AM // 04:09

Knowledge is power in GW. I wouldn't trade in my secrets to any ol' person XD.

Crystal Alice · Sep 28, 2006, 04:01 AM // 04:01

sorry to say but i am kinda like that. the reason i don't like to tell my builds is because i made up some of my builds and i want to keep them secret so that they're "special" to me. also, whenever someone asks me for a build when im solo farming something i get a little annoyed... especially when using a 55 in UW, since typing and trying to stay alive at the same time is a little hard...
but, most of the builds people use are on guildwiki.com. no one goes there to check, they all ask people first. it would be faster for you and less annoying for the other person to check wiki.
like today for instance, i was getting ready to farm ghial and 5 different people start whispering me what build i use and if they can come with me since they see the mo/e above my head. one person was even offering 1k for a solo monk to solo ghial so they could get the flesh golem skill and they said they would give up the staff if they got it. there's no proof they will give you the staff (which is the reason for soloing in the first place) and how can they get the skill when the person will likely die at the beginning where the ritualist boss is?

this is just an opinion.

Opeth · Sep 28, 2006, 05:41 AM // 05:41

Want my build ? here it is

having my build doesnt mean they can play with it, so i give my build whenever asked!

shrouded^god · Sep 28, 2006, 11:30 AM // 11:30

Yea, I worked my build myself, although im sure someone else has the same combo and im sure its been posted somewhere...but I dont bother giving it to guildies...Im not too keen to share with others though.

Gururian · Oct 16, 2006, 01:54 AM // 01:54

I'm glad someone finally brought this up.

Its not like, if you use a skill, I can't use it. They are all there to freely use. What counts is how you play the build itself. If someone asks, you should share, its not like they will be E-famous the next day( Or on the news, Ha ha. ) So, remember guys... Sharing is Caring. lol.

EDIT: PvE is a different story. I keep those builds to myself as well.

Maria The Princess · Oct 16, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23

@ OP: maby there scared that if you find out about this super build and post it it will get nurfed after 1 week or so

Scorpion Boy · Oct 16, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05

Or they just think they're too 1337...And yes most of the builds "they" use are already on wiki or on guru..

Former Ruling · Oct 16, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26

In Organized Team PvP - The Build is the TEAMS business..They'd be gone in 2 seconds from any decent team if they didn't fully answer any question about skills, attributes, and weapon sets.

ESPECIALLY GvG...They wouldnt even make it into the team's party if they refused any information relating to their actions in GvG. If its the leader doing it..find a new guild.

Yanman.be · Oct 16, 2006, 01:32 PM // 13:32

I happely guide everyone who asks about my sin build to www.putfile.com/yanman .

tuperwho · Oct 16, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26

What happened to "Immitation is the ultimate form of flattery"? I make almost all my builds myself, and on the rare occasion someone is actually impressed by them, I'm honored to share. I would love to be famous enough to have everyone and their brother copy my builds

Aera · Oct 16, 2006, 10:13 PM // 22:13

I don't really ask builds I create them and I'm always happy so share them

l)l2UNl( · Oct 22, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18

... its just a build why not sare your work?
and i never bother asking or copying i just observe and improve

Lady Lozza · Oct 23, 2006, 09:55 AM // 09:55

It's a learning game. Some people are better organising a certain type of character/attribute. I get asked a lot by friends for monk builds because I'm so rarely out of energy. I'm happy to tell them, but they don't always find it working for them of course. Builds are very little compared to how it is played. Some monks, all they can do is boon-prot, give them a generic WoH build and they are spamming 0 energy every 5 seconds. For this reason I'm happy to share individual builds. My guild and I are a little more closed mouthed about team builds for HA and GvG, but if someone wants it they can get it probably. Once again though it is all about how you play it, and when talking about team builds it is difficult simply to give skills and not the "way" you play it... And it is the "way" we don't always like sharing. *Shrug* My 2 cents. *click clink*

Father Anansi · Oct 23, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

I am always willing to share builds when asked. Though I am also one who believes that there is no such thing as a truely "Original" build. Every build you see is a variant of another.

My personal opinion on people who refuse to share their builds is that these are individuals that have issues of inadequecy. When an individual has fears of inedequecy they tend to cling to their achievments, sharing is out of the question because these people tend to foster attachments to their own accomplishments. If another person "steals" and uses (in this instance the persons build) it depreciates the value of that accomplishment to the individual because they see it as giving something up that they created as opposed to sharing it.

And let's face it, feelings of inadequecy and megalomania aren't particularly foreign concepts to the gaming community. In Guild Wars Billy is a rank 12 Warrior/Monk, leader of the "Warriors of Heaven," a ranked top 10 guild renowned through out the greater guild wars world. In real life..he's still that short scrawny pizza faced geek who is a prime candidate for a swirly every week day between 12:00-12:30.

Sep 24, 2006, 07:16 AM // 07:16	#1
Mera Regila Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In The Deep Profession: R/A	"My Build Is Secret!" I don't know about everyone else here, but I've been getting an overwhelmingly large amount of people, in guilds, gvgs, and other areas of pvp who won't share their builds. I don't understand this kind of mentality, I mean, If I don't know what someone's build is, say they're a W/Mo in gvg using Mending and Healing Hands, and refuse to say their build, I can't offer any friendly input. Once I had a guild leader who everyoen in the guild said was awesome, meanwhile he doesn't share his GvG W/Me build, it turns out to be a riposte warrior with Physical Resistance and Conjure Phantasm.... Even in RA, the noobiest of pvp fights, people are like this, once i had a very good group going there and I asked a mesmer what KIND of build she was using and she goes "None of ur business!" and ragequits, of course we lose, and she pms me a bunch of cussing and foul language. I'm like wtf, all I did was ask the particular area of the build you were using.... Anybody else finding this behavior?

Oct 16, 2006, 01:54 AM // 01:54	#11
Gururian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Rangers Of Chaos(RoC) Profession: Mo/Me	I'm glad someone finally brought this up. Its not like, if you use a skill, I can't use it. They are all there to freely use. What counts is how you play the build itself. If someone asks, you should share, its not like they will be E-famous the next day( Or on the news, Ha ha. ) So, remember guys... Sharing is Caring. lol. EDIT: PvE is a different story. I keep those builds to myself as well. Last edited by Gururian; Oct 16, 2006 at 02:01 AM // 02:01.. Reason: PvE

Sep 24, 2006, 08:47 AM // 08:47	#2
Mars Djinn06 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: The Adepts of Hesperia [Sun] Profession: E/D	Hmm, sorta. I sometimes tend to ask what the Elementalist build that a person is using, but they tend of ignore it and change the subject as such, so i just let it slide. But i have never encounted someone getting so angry for asking what build they are using. Swearing and all that is too far!

Sep 24, 2006, 11:12 AM // 11:12	#3
Stemnin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	I dont even bother asking, i'll watch what their builds are while playing monk, or when im playing something else and im dead, i watch there too lol.

Sep 25, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40	#4
teenchi Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: PST Guild: Heros of Titans Realm [HotR] Profession: W/Mo	I agree with watching while monking for them or challenge them to 1v1 in the guild hall and then you can use Fraps to record the fight if you really want to know. www.fraps.com

Sep 25, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46	#5
Kusandaa Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: N/Mo	I don't like this attitude either. I take it as a fear of getting countered/beaten/brought down, but they're not helping others. It's pretty selfish... well that's what I think. I'm willing to help people get better at this game, find new ways of doing things, but it doesn't seem to be like that with everyone. Within my guild, I'm not having this problem and we seem to share most builds we use, give tips, etc. At most, if I wanna get a new build, I'll check on GW Wiki .

Sep 26, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06	#6
Quid Pro Quo Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005	I think people don't want other people to copy their build when really they don't realise that their build is probably already on guild wiki unless it doesn't work in which case its probably also on guild wiki under unfavored builds.

Sep 26, 2006, 04:09 AM // 04:09	#7
Sinborn Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Profession: Me/	Knowledge is power in GW. I wouldn't trade in my secrets to any ol' person XD.

Sep 28, 2006, 04:01 AM // 04:01	#8
Crystal Alice Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: VILE Profession: Mo/	sorry to say but i am kinda like that. the reason i don't like to tell my builds is because i made up some of my builds and i want to keep them secret so that they're "special" to me. also, whenever someone asks me for a build when im solo farming something i get a little annoyed... especially when using a 55 in UW, since typing and trying to stay alive at the same time is a little hard... but, most of the builds people use are on guildwiki.com. no one goes there to check, they all ask people first. it would be faster for you and less annoying for the other person to check wiki. like today for instance, i was getting ready to farm ghial and 5 different people start whispering me what build i use and if they can come with me since they see the mo/e above my head. one person was even offering 1k for a solo monk to solo ghial so they could get the flesh golem skill and they said they would give up the staff if they got it. there's no proof they will give you the staff (which is the reason for soloing in the first place) and how can they get the skill when the person will likely die at the beginning where the ritualist boss is? this is just an opinion.

Sep 28, 2006, 05:41 AM // 05:41	#9
Opeth Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Portugal Guild: Dangerous Pumpkins [dP] Profession: Rt/A	Want my build ? here it is having my build doesnt mean they can play with it, so i give my build whenever asked!

Sep 28, 2006, 11:30 AM // 11:30	#10
shrouded^god IGN: J C A C H E Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 843 Guild: [Liar]	Yea, I worked my build myself, although im sure someone else has the same combo and im sure its been posted somewhere...but I dont bother giving it to guildies...Im not too keen to share with others though.

Oct 16, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23	#12
Maria The Princess Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Aequitas Deis	@ OP: maby there scared that if you find out about this super build and post it it will get nurfed after 1 week or so

Oct 16, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05	#13
Scorpion Boy Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005	Or they just think they're too 1337...And yes most of the builds "they" use are already on wiki or on guru..

Oct 16, 2006, 01:26 PM // 13:26	#14
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	In Organized Team PvP - The Build is the TEAMS business..They'd be gone in 2 seconds from any decent team if they didn't fully answer any question about skills, attributes, and weapon sets. ESPECIALLY GvG...They wouldnt even make it into the team's party if they refused any information relating to their actions in GvG. If its the leader doing it..find a new guild.

Oct 16, 2006, 01:32 PM // 13:32	#15
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	I happely guide everyone who asks about my sin build to www.putfile.com/yanman .

Oct 16, 2006, 07:26 PM // 19:26	#16
tuperwho Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Tenacious Knights of Doom [TKD]	What happened to "Immitation is the ultimate form of flattery"? I make almost all my builds myself, and on the rare occasion someone is actually impressed by them, I'm honored to share. I would love to be famous enough to have everyone and their brother copy my builds

Oct 16, 2006, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#17
Aera Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm] Profession: E/	I don't really ask builds I create them and I'm always happy so share them

Oct 22, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18	#18
l)l2UNl( Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2006	... its just a build why not sare your work? and i never bother asking or copying i just observe and improve

Oct 23, 2006, 09:55 AM // 09:55	#19
Lady Lozza Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Oz Guild: Angel Sharks Profession: Me/N	It's a learning game. Some people are better organising a certain type of character/attribute. I get asked a lot by friends for monk builds because I'm so rarely out of energy. I'm happy to tell them, but they don't always find it working for them of course. Builds are very little compared to how it is played. Some monks, all they can do is boon-prot, give them a generic WoH build and they are spamming 0 energy every 5 seconds. For this reason I'm happy to share individual builds. My guild and I are a little more closed mouthed about team builds for HA and GvG, but if someone wants it they can get it probably. Once again though it is all about how you play it, and when talking about team builds it is difficult simply to give skills and not the "way" you play it... And it is the "way" we don't always like sharing. Shrug My 2 cents. click clink

Oct 23, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31	#20
Father Anansi Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Florida Guild: Death By sNu [sNu] Profession: Rt/R	I am always willing to share builds when asked. Though I am also one who believes that there is no such thing as a truely "Original" build. Every build you see is a variant of another. My personal opinion on people who refuse to share their builds is that these are individuals that have issues of inadequecy. When an individual has fears of inedequecy they tend to cling to their achievments, sharing is out of the question because these people tend to foster attachments to their own accomplishments. If another person "steals" and uses (in this instance the persons build) it depreciates the value of that accomplishment to the individual because they see it as giving something up that they created as opposed to sharing it. And let's face it, feelings of inadequecy and megalomania aren't particularly foreign concepts to the gaming community. In Guild Wars Billy is a rank 12 Warrior/Monk, leader of the "Warriors of Heaven," a ranked top 10 guild renowned through out the greater guild wars world. In real life..he's still that short scrawny pizza faced geek who is a prime candidate for a swirly every week day between 12:00-12:30.